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Old 03-04-2013, 09:12 PM   #1
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EMV coming to USA soon: http://www.heartlandpaymentsystems.c...e-Requirements

What you guys think? i wonder how long it will take for us to crack this system and clone the chips, hmm.
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:28 PM   #2
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It is already the crap in the EU because of this technology... few teams must crack it quickly !
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:55 PM   #3
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The technology just needs to get released to the public asap, its already been cracked and used by private groups.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:15 PM   #4
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I repeat.
Stop bealieving in fairy tales.

Getting dp from chip - one thing.

Using it smoewhere - other.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:51 PM   #5
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I'm not sure if have private groups already cracking this technology with success to cashout EMV cards... Should be, but we can't be sure since this technology is not on our hands. Anyway, when USA get 100% EMV'ed thing will change. Even if some group around the world crack the system, till it get to the public will take few time, some years maybe. And after it getting to the public, this internet shit that we know now (getting dumps over internet) will not work anymore. I really believe to get the info from chip, is impossible over internet, you will need to install the skimmer physically to be able to counterfeit the card. So, the idea is: vendors like we see today, is gone, at least for what I think...
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:54 AM   #6
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I repeat.
Stop bealieving in fairy tales.

Getting dp from chip - one thing.

Using it smoewhere - other.


100% correct

And guys just wait till chip n pin hits USA then u will see how da whole game will change, it changed here in uk in 2004 since then it's been hard work there are other ways to get your card authorised which I won't discuss in public, but I'm telling u guys in USA now make as much money as you can now work overtime coz emv will come to USA soon very soon, then u will think what da hell has just hit us, but anyways a true player and a true G fraudster will make his €€€$$£££ no matter what.

So on this note guys :beer
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Old 05-04-2013, 02:20 AM   #7
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We carders seem to have a very bad future ahead of us. And I think if people will be able to exploit chip, it will never ever be good like carding with Magnetic stripe. Very sad. And even with other money making methods, for me it can NEVER replace dumps carding. Its for me so adicting, get anything for free. Everything from clothes, to hair cuts, food and other luxery items. Paying for items without working for it in any shop that is for me like gift from God and I will always have good memory from that times!
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:31 AM   #8
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Will be the same and better. When we get skimmers / tech able to crack chip + pin, and we get 100% success rate like we did in magstripe, will be better. Because magstripe is already much frauded and banks make rules like region lock, limits over limits, bin locking into some area after high fraud, and others... Now, chip + pin is coming to erase all those rules, so when it get broken will be like 90's with magstripe. No rules at all, only get instore and blow up... But I hope, this days I'll already got my retirement lol...
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:35 AM   #9
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Guys... the sky is not falling.

Yes, EMV is a big pain in the ass. But like all things, man makes them and man breaks them. With processor speeds doubling along with the processors getting smaller and smaller... it's a matter of time until the encryption in those chips won't be able to withstand a crack.
Look at the Samsung S4, it has a octa processor in it!
Damn, 5 years ago even desktops didn't have octa processors.
Having that processing speed in the palm of your hand, is a HUGE step closer to cracking the chips, on the fly... like a Mini123.

Also some of you who think that the game will never be the same... WHEN, not IF, the crack for chip & pin comes out... it will get both the PIN and CARD DATA at the same time. So you will be able to cashout at any atm, provided you write the chip correctly. This is because the PIN is actually stored inside the chip along with the secret RSA private keys needed to authorize the transaction.

Look back to the Dish Network satellite hacking days, they implemented Nagra 1, Nagra 2 & finally Nagra 3 killed the stealing of Dish Network signals.

Similar to how Dish Network chips operate, so do the credit card chips operate in the same way... unloopers, unlockers... etc..
ROM10 cards, ROM102 cards... etc.. they were smart card chips that were programmable using exploit packs to get into the chips protected areas.

Anyways, it's a cat and mouse game. USA carders, make the best of it!:beer
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:49 PM   #10
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if and when chip and pin is cracked i think people need to be more aware of who gets the info
so many little kids carding these days all just so they can buy some weed or a pair of designer jeans making it hard for the real carders out here who live for this game im just saying reason now why carding is so hard is because word of mouth and now 10 year olds carding shit is crazy had people kept info in a small circle we might still be able to use 201 shit
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